what is flow to you? (11 posts)

Topic tags: flow
  • Profile picture of khan khan said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    Hoopers talk about flow all the time. In addition, hooping can be considered a subset of the Flow Arts, an umbrella term that encompasses all kinds of skill toys: poi, staff, fans, balls, clubs, buugeng…

    Practitioners of these disciplines often talk about flow and it seems to me that even though we don’t necessarily mean the same thing when we refer to flow, we know what it means when someone uses the term. Does that even make sense?

    For me the primary component of flow is presence. Connectedness to now, to breath and movement, when the movement arises from an awareness of every possible path the hoop (or your body or whatever toy) can take.

    Another key component, for me, is the space between “moves”. Flow arises in that transitional space: there is no planning, no “this move next”, no “this will look cool”. Only your dance with time, and gravity, and possibility.

    What is flow to you? How do you get there?

  • Profile picture of silverstar silverstar said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    For me, flow is just really being in the moment. Sometimes that happens when I’m just hooping with no intention of doing certain moves, but it can also happen when doing choreographed routines. There is that moment when I’m so into it and in the zone that everything goes from one thing to the next without any thought.

    Getting there? Sometimes it’s hard to capture that lightning in a bottle. It definitely doesn’t happen every time I pick up the hoop. Sometimes if a really good song is on, I lose myself and it just happens. But conversely, sometimes having rehearsed something repeatedly makes it flow. I know that sounds counterintuitive, but if I practice something so much that it’s engrained in my muscle memory and I don’t have to think about what’s coming next, the flow is able to come more easily.

    Finding flow is like meditating – it takes time and practice to get to the point where the mind can let go.

  • Profile picture of Fox Red  "HoopsterFoximus" Fox Red “HoopsterFoximus” said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    I consider even though I less then 6 months really active into hooping , I consider myself a flow hooper.
    I am an practitioner at heart.
    I have no intention in teaching.
    I picked up the hoop beacuse a dear friend of mine “Miss Erin Sparrow’ had complety blown me away with her magical and mystical dance flow.

    I felt I wanted to feel what she might be feeling, and took the step.
    It started good, and in the first 4 weeks I saw myself getting more into hooping and dance.. Then something had happened, that has untill now turned my life upside down or 36o degrees into mush, physical and emotional. ANd it made me loose energy and motivation towards everything in my life, it was very dark, cloudy and very very sad.

    Threwout te summer I did still spin, but this was just spontanious and very short everytime, as I didn find myself having the drive to push my mind and body.. but sometimes I did find flow and it was magical.

    And the last months and a half, my hooping as started back up again, and has become a addiction and passion. Watching beautiful vids on youtube, exchanging thoughts with hoopers along the world, and and seeing the hoop comminuty in The Netherlands reaching out to eachother.
    The workshop that Baxter&Becken gave was for me a real awakening to my hooplife, I had just gotten a new 35 inch hoop, and needed to get up close and personal with my new hoop before the workshop, and i set a goal for myself, it worked! By the ime the workshop had begon i was ok with my new hoop, and the workshop made me see I Can do so much more when dancing and traing , gave me oppertunity to explore what more I could do. Andhaving Baxter and staying at my ouse a week, and even havinig Brecken over a couple nights was a high energy and awakening expierence for me. Seeing how they talked and thought about their art: Hooping.

    Then because of my high energy and love for dance and hooping, I started an almost everyday hour or more training. Study my body and moves in film and see what had to be changed.. And thats folks , was just were it went wrong.

    This week i have had already about a 8 hour training.
    I have the wonderful Rebecca Halls staying at my house, and had the chance to go her workshop.
    I found myself in a fight in my head, while during the hoop jam I had in a club the night before, and at the workshop.
    A fight maybe many of you might be familiar with; I cant do this, why cant , why cant I, I practise so hard!
    That thought basicly made me not enjoy hooping, and made it an I HAVE TO DO!
    So I have decided to not thouv my hoop 2 days, well Im trying to because I can go to a gym and dance to hours with other fellow hoopers ..But I atleast only hooped before my showe yesterday before work and it was 5 minutes.

    I did a vid after I had baxters and brecken workshop, and was blown away by my flow and moving in this vid.. And I was thinking about this, in that vid I had just moved into my new room , and I really wanted to break in my room with my hoop.. and I just flew and flowed..its amazing.

    SO I have to say ;
    I am a practitioner, lover, enjoyer of hooping and watching artistic hooping vids online..
    And I am one who will not want to be the coolest or tricy-est..
    I hoop for me and the growth and learning and pushing yourself to the fullest to give in to maybe looking silly, give into flight, creativity, and being who you want to be in your hoop.

  • Profile picture of khan khan said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    Everyone should watch Richard Hartnell’s “meaning of Flow” video!

    http://www.hooping.org/groups/the-flow-zone/forum/topic/richard-hartnells-video-on-flow-1/

  • Profile picture of bethlavinder said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    Fox, I just wanted to respond to your beautiful and revealing post and say thank you for sharing some of the roadblocks you experienced in your path. Like you, I started hooping because I wanted to feel what I saw (or thought I saw) another hooper was feeling. When I teach, I actually describe this moment, when I first saw Vivian ‘Spiral’ hooping on the Weaver Street Lawn 8 or so years ago, as wanting to “feel as good as she looks.” I wanted to FEEL that beauty that she embodied, knowing I could never LOOK the same way.

    In the following years, I often found myself in the place you describe, of feeling frustrated with myself and inadequate. Why am I not progressing faster? Why does so much elude me? It wasn’t until I decided to invest in my own voice, trust in my own inclinations and the way my body and soul wanted to move, that I began to feel Flow authentically. I really think one of the essential components of Flow is that it must come from a place of authenticity. You have to ‘own’ the movement and make it yours.

  • Profile picture of Melissa Melissa said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    For me, flow is serenity. It’s that moment where you get out of your head, and just enjoy the love of hooping. So many times I will get frustrated at my lack of ability, in learning a new trick. I’m not always known for my patience, lol, and I’ve noticed when I catch myself being upset at myself, and getting caught up in perfectionism, that serenity goes right out the window. And it’s funny almost, because I thought I was the only one experiencing this. Helllooooo ego. LOL It’s comforting to know that I’m not the only one who struggles with this, and it reminds me that if i want to continue to experience the bliss that happens when I hoop, I have to let go of ego, and just enjoy the moment, with whatever comes. :o )

  • Profile picture of bethlavinder said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    Being in Flow is ultimately being in the moment for me. If I’m too wrapped up in how it’s going to look on video or whether I’ve ‘mastered’ something yet or not, I tend to loose that connection to Flow. Ironically, working TOWARDS mastery often takes me there, but fielding internal questions “am I there yet? am I there yet?” like an obnoxious 5 year old in the back seat totally breaks my flow. I was thinking of starting a thread to discuss Flow breakers and how to over come them. Thanks for your input, Melissa. So many of us are in the same boat.

  • Profile picture of sweetback sweetback said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    Wow just reading some of the post here I’m in the same relation about comparing or doubting your own creative ablity. I’ve been hoop for atleast 3 yrs. and have re-inventing myself over again. I’m not tricky type hooper, even if, I applied it…it will never feel right to ME!!! I’m a natural sponetanous flow dancer. My spiritual body love alot of hip movement, very sensual. That’s my natural flow. I may learn different transitional moves to make it more stylize. Like Beth says, it comes from within. I think that what’s make you unique. There are plenty of hoopers who are more organic with their hoop and that style will become emulated by others. Every dance doesn’t look the same,if it did it would be boring. Flows allow you, the artist, to keep it fresh and lovely.

  • Profile picture of amykay amykay said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    So many great meanings expressed here! So much resonates with me: being in the present moment, getting out of your head, not worrying what others may think, feeling spontaneous…

    When I feel an emotion, particularly when listening to music, I want to express it, and the most natural way for me to do this is through my body. So I take the time to regularly focus on and train my body, increasing awareness in every bit of it and strengthening the mind-body connection. I want my body to seamlessly respond to what I feel inside. This is what flow means to me; it makes me feel complete. :)

  • Profile picture of bethlavinder said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    I love that, ‘it makes me feel complete.’ Enjoying all of the shared thoughts here. I find myself going back to the idea of Flow as language that becomes natural and native feeling. Once the brain overcomes the need to translate and the tongue has gained the muscle memory to create the sounds of the new language, one can speak fluently. The translation is directly from the source. When the body is trained to ‘feel’ the movement of the hoop, where it’s been and where it’s going, then the spirit is able to express itself directly through the hoop, without the need for the brain to translate “if I do this, the hoop does that.” It just happens.

  • Profile picture of dawn5 dawn5 said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Well I’m new here, so my posts will probably not be as insightful as all of yours, but I’ll give it a try.
    To me, flow is connecting and serenity. When I hoop, I feel connected to the science of ourselves and the elements of the earth, if that makes any sense to you. In another sense, I feel connected to myself and my emotions. I really don’t think that you can practice flow, but only practice hooping and doing the various tricks. Flow comes from within, it reflects your emotions; you can’t practice that. Saying you can practice flow is like saying you can practice being you. Flow is spontaneous and an expression. I see it as, our bodies don’t control the hoop, we do.