2/18/11: Sizing Help: All Questions Will Be Answered! (22 posts)

  • Profile picture of Lara Eastburn Lara Eastburn said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    After nine years, I estimate that I’ve received over 1000 emails and phone calls that focus on questions about hoop sizing. And now that there are more tubing options than ever, hoop size confusion is understandably a bigger issue than ever! How do I know when I’m ready for a smaller hoop? What size hoop should I start with? What about LED and fire hoops? How are hoops measured, anyway?

  • Profile picture of Swirly Whirly Girl Swirly Whirly Girl said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Great article Lara! Thanks for sharing all your knowledge! i recently got a question ask of me on my facebook page and while I think I know the answer, I’m not a 100% sure, so I’ll ask you….Is Pex and PolyPro the same thing?

  • Profile picture of Lara Eastburn Lara Eastburn said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    That’s a negative, Swirly Girl!

    Almost all PEX (Cross-linked polyethylene) is HDPE (high-density polyethylene) tubing. It’s not identical to the black stuff you most commonly see, but it’s close enough that lots of folks do use it for hoop-making. You may have seen the tubing in its opaque white, blue, or red forms at festivals or at your neighborhood hardware store. Its most common use is in plumbing.

    Polypropylene, on the other hand, is a whole other animal. I won’t attempt to delve into its unique chemical properties, because I honestly can’t claim to understand them fully. But the stuff is found in everything from clothing to aircraft. Look for the recycling number on your household plastics. (Fun fact: over 50% of the stuff is used in diapers … it’s very good at absorbing water!). To your eye, it will be appear translucent next to PEX. For hooping purposes, it translates, to light, fast, and responsive! It is also non-toxic.

  • Profile picture of Swirly Whirly Girl Swirly Whirly Girl said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Interesting! That IS a fun fact being that I’m a Mom…and it’s nice to know it’s non toxic! =)
    That is mostly what I thought. I have hoops in the regular black stuff and one in the polypro. And since you say that PEX comes in opaque white, I’m going to assume that is what my LED is made from.
    Thanks for your response!!

  • Profile picture of Lara Eastburn Lara Eastburn said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Oh, I doubt your LED hoop is made from PEX. That would be very unusual. PEX will generally be used for day hoops-only.

    Your LED hoop is likely made from LDPE (low-density polyethylene) or HDPE “Natural-colored” tubing. It’s the same as the black stuff, but is white and may have a thinner wall to allow for the LED light to shine through. The “natural-colored” (or white) HDPE tubing is used (in irrigation/plumbing) in places where the pipes don’t need to be sunlight-resistant. Luckily for us hoopers … ‘cuz it’s perfect for LED hoops!

  • Profile picture of Swirly Whirly Girl Swirly Whirly Girl said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Huh? I thought that most PEX is HDPE. And that LDPE is just ‘natural colored’ HDPE. I thought I had it but now I’m confused! =) Sorry.

  • Profile picture of Shannon HoopLove Shannon HoopLove said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    If one, like myself, has to start out with 1 inch piping and huge hoop, will I eventually be able to downgrade with practice? I really hate that I can’t do hand hooping much with it cause it’s so big but I want to be able to try to mix all the things I know together. It’s discouraging that I have to switch hoops depending on if I’m doing hand or body hooping. I wind up having 3 hoops at my feet. Although I am so very happy that using 1 inch piping has given me the ability to waist hoop for at least 10+ seconds. ^_^

  • Profile picture of Kamala Kamala said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    First, I am SO grateful for this article. Lara, I always get so much out of what you write & truly appreciate it. This, however, has addressed an issue that has recently arisen for me. I’ve only been hooping a couple months, however, I’ve been a dancer for over 40 years (yes that’s correct, but young at heart). I’m also pretty small with a fairly slight frame, and I move quickly. I’ve used the standard 160 PSI hoop you describe and it is probably about 41″ It has been just fine for most things and I’ve got shoulder hooping, waist hooping, breaks, some lifts, some off body stuff, starting shoulder duck-outs, & can get the hoop from waist to chest with arms out and down to hips & up, and down to knees. However that is where it all goes south as the expression goes. I’ve been feeling that perhaps this hoop is just too heavy for me to realistically move from knees up. I’m also making hoops & am about to make a 100 PSI 40 inch diam hoop to see how it goes (hardware store gave me the wrong PSI so I decided to keep it and experiment). Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. I hope I haven’t rambled too much!!!

  • Profile picture of Lara Eastburn Lara Eastburn said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Swirly Girl, Basically we’re talking about three different kinds of tubing here:
    1) Your standard Poly – which comes in high-density (HDPE) or low-density (LDPE) and also in black or “natural. It’s used for making most day and LED hoops.
    2) Polypro, and
    3) PEX – which, yes, is HDPE but cross-linked (that’s what the X is for), which has something to do with polymers and the tubing’s basic chemical structure. Used less commonly for making day hoops.

  • Profile picture of Lara Eastburn Lara Eastburn said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    YAY Questions!
    SHANNON- My first hoop was made from 1 1/4″ tubing and stood taller than my 5 foot 3 inches. I hooped with it exclusively for a year solid. Learning to lift with that thing sure helped me build muscle strength! After that, I remember literally having 5-6 hoops at my feet, each one’s use dependent upon what song came up next on the turntable! That was the case for many, many years for me.

    So, there’s no use in rushing it. If moving down in size is something that’s a goal for you … it will come in its own good time. If your waist hoop is your biggest hoop, I’d recommend concentrating on waist hooping for a few months. That’s all muscle memory, and when you increase your time there, it _will_ become more natural to you. You won’t even have to think about it anymore.

    What sizes (and psi) are your other hoops?

  • Profile picture of Lara Eastburn Lara Eastburn said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Hi Kamala!

    Well, before you give up on your trusty ol’ hoop, know that knees can give anybody trouble! I’m pretty sure I spent about a year on it with a 42″ 160psi hoop. It came SO slowly for me. But I think it would have taken longer with a lighter hoop. That because I was certainly no dancer. I needed to be beaten into submission by new plastic dance partner. I literally had no sense of my body in space.

    YOU, on the other hand, are likely in a much different situation. It could very well be that your body, more used to its graceful existence, would appreciate some of the weight being taken off.

    Let us know how your experimenting with the 100psi goes! Grip (gaffers) tape will help a lot with those knees and take a little edge off the weight difference.

  • Profile picture of Kamala Kamala said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Lara – thank you SO much for your prompt response! Very helpful information. I certainly won’t give up any of my hoops! :-) I will certainly let you know how it goes with the lighter hoop and will also continue to work it with the heavier hoop too. I may learn something from the contrast & who knows what other movements might emerge with the lighter hoop? It is all a playful evolution for me, which I am enjoying very much! Thanks again!

  • Profile picture of Shannon HoopLove Shannon HoopLove said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    I have one hoopnotica travel hoop 42″, probably a 45″ ??psi (I’m assuming 160) that my friend made for me knowing that I was a absolute beginner, a 50″+ 100 psi hoop (accidently got the wrong psi but I think it helped me become more aware), and a gaiam hoop from 4 years ago (wobbly), and a ??psi probably 40″ hoop that vinyl covered(elephant gift that I wanted!).
    Total at moment: 6. Three on a daily basis. I was expected to bring 3 of my hoops today at my other job because they all love to hoop now cause of me!

    Now I have my 48″+ 1″ 160 PSI. I’m planning to make a few smaller hoops out of the 100 psi piping to practice isolations or hand hooping when I want. It is definitely an arm workout! After trying to hoop for 5 minutes, I can feel it in my arms. At least I don’t feel so odd now. The only reason I didn’t get 1inch PSI the first time was cause I read “it’d be a very heavy hoop” which is what I needed! I can actually feel the hoop. I had gotten lovely suggestions like close yours eyes and feel the hoop except how can you feel to pump when you can’t feel it?! Now I can!

    I have been wanting to learn how to hoop for years. I have tried every few years and this is the first year it clicked (or with the right hoop). That’s why I have a collection already.

    As of this morning the switching has became hoopnotica hoop with knee hooping, my flaming hoop (my huge one) for waist, the 45″ that my friend made me for hand if I’m not using the hoopnotica hoop. I can start walking to the side a bit and do a 360 or 340. I can’t wait for the good weather although the flamer is SO hard to get in my car.

    Would gaffer tape be better for sticking on me than duct tape? I just want to make sure that hooping is here to stay in my mind before investing in a ton of tape (because Lowe’s already thinks I’m crazy with all this piping and have no clue what that tape is..lol). I’ve been using a mix of duct tape with hockey tape in small increments. Although on second thought I’ve probably already spent a ton of money on hooping just including my past efforts!

    Thank you again!

  • Profile picture of Lara Eastburn Lara Eastburn said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Sounds like you’ve got a wonderful assortment, Shannon! I do recommend getting yourself some gaffer tape. You don’t need to invest . You can get two colors for under $20. My favorite gaffers taped hoop is just one solid color. It will make a world of difference!

  • Profile picture of Kamala Kamala said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Update on the lighter hoop. I hooped with it yesterday – 39.5″ 100 PSI with a mix of regular & gaf tape. I alternated between my heavier hoop & lighter hoop. I could obviously feel a major difference; some things were easier, some more difficult. Regarding knee hooping & moving it up from there, the lighter hoop felt less stressful to my rather bony & sensitive knees. I felt less stressed & therefore a little more confident, and my pushing leg naturally bumped that hoop upward, although I didn’t complete the skill & get it up to the waist. I also played a bit with preliminaries for chest roll, which I would never do with my heavier hoop. My next plan is to make 3-4 more hoops and play with size/weight combination. Reading recent posts, I also plan to make a hoop with 100% gaff tape for knee hooping. All my hoops do have gaff tape, but none are 100%. This is all so helpful. Thanks!